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Saddam Hussein, Ossama Bin Laden, l'onde . Ossama bin Laden's Controversy. Bali and 11-SEP.
Compact interpretation. Last revision on 14-DEC-2003
There isn't  a detailed interpretation in English language for this presage yet.
Please refer to the
Portuguese Version for the complete interpretation and  
the historical follow-up  of the facts.
 

XI. 19.**
 
Six cents & cinq, six cents & six & sept,
Nous monstrera jusques l'an dix-sept,
Du boute-feul l'ire, haine & envie,
Sous l'Orient d'assez long-temps caché
Le crocodil sur la terre a caché,
Ce qui estoit mort, sera pour lors en vie.
XI. 19.**

Six hundred and five, six hundred and six and seven,
It will show us up to the year seventeen,
The anger, hatred and jealousy of the incendiary,
For a long enough time hidden under the earth,
The Crocodile hidden under the land,
 That which was dead will then be alive

     
            Let's first see the tables for the possible dates referenced in the first verse:
 
Base date:  20-JAN-1951 Upwards
Start/End(months)
Downwards
Start/End(months)
605=50y ± 5m 20-JUN-2001/20-JUL-2001(605m) Not applicable
       =51y ± 4m 20-MAY-2002/20-JUN-2002(616m) 20-SEP-2001/20-OCT-2001(608m)
       =52y ± 3m 20-APR-2003/20-MAY-2003(627m) 20-OCT-2002/20-NOV-2002(621m)
       =53y ± 2m 20-MAR-2004/20-APR-2004(638m) 20-NOV-2003/20-DEC-2003(634m)
       =54y ± 1m 20-FEB-2005/20-MAR-2005(649m) 20-DEC-2004/20-JAN-2005(647m)
       =55y ± 0m 20-JAN-2006/20-FEB-2006(660m) 20-JAN-2006/20-FEB-2006(660m)


 

Base date:  20-JAN-1951 Upwards
Start/End(months)
Downwards
Start/End(months)
606= 50y ± 6m 20-JUL-2001/20-AUG-2001(606m) Not applicable
       = 51y ± 5m 20-JUN-2002/20-JUL-2002(617m) 20-AUG-2001/20-SEP-2001(607m)
       = 52y ± 4m 20-MAY-2003/20-JUN-2003(628m) 20-SEP-2002/20-OCT-2002(620m)
       = 53y ± 3m 20-APR-2004/20-MAY-2004(639m) 20-OCT-2003/20-NOV-2003(633m)
       = 54y ± 2m 20-MAR-2005/20-APR-2005(650m) 20-NOV-2004/20-DEC-2005(646m)
       = 55y ± 1m 20-FEB-2006/20-MAR-2006(661m) 20-DEC-2005/20-JAN-2007(659m)
       = 56y ± 0m 20-JAN-2007/20-FEB-2007(672m) 20-JAN-2007/20-FEB-2007(672m)

 

Base date:  20-JAN-1951 Upwards
Start/End(months)
Downwards
Start/End(months)
607= 50y ± 7m 20-AUG-2001/20-SEP-2001(607m) Not applicable
       = 51y ± 6m 20-JUL-2002/20-AUG-2002(618m) 20-JUL-2001/20-AUG-2001(606m)
       = 52y ± 5m 20-JUN-2003/20-JUL-2003(629m) 20-AUG-2002/20-SEP-2002(619m)
       = 53y ± 4m 20-MAY-2004/20-JUN-2004(640m) 20-SEP-2003/20-OCT-2003(632m)
       = 54y ± 3m 20-APR-2005/20-MAY-2005(651m) 20-OCT-2004/20-NOV-2004(645m)
       = 55y ± 2m 20-MAR-2006/20-APR-2006(662m) 20-NOV-2005/20-DEC-2005(658m)
       = 56y ± 1m 20-FEB-2007/20-MAR-2007(673m) 20-DEC-2006/20-JAN-2007(671m)
       = 57y ± 0m 20-JAN-2008/20-FEB-2008(684m) 20-JAN-2008/20-FEB-2008(684m)

      

On  those tables  we have shaded the periods we suppose are relevant to the sixain.

        The first verse mentions three dates, that (as we already know) must be separated into years and months (divide by 12 to get the number of years and the remainder is the number of months).  Then we can apply two scales to a base-date (20-01-1951), one upwards and the other downwards, to get the periods.

        The second verse cites the age of l'onde in one of those periods. According to the information we have now - they will be subject to confirmation in the future - l'onde was fifteen in 2001 and before the Mazar-E-Sarif massacre (see C03Q048). After the massacre, he completed sixteen before the end of 2001. Near the end of 2002 he had completed seventeen. So, the age of seventeen of l'onde refers probably to the 605 period or 20-10-2002/20-11-2002. This is according to the supposed date of the Mazar-E-Sarif massacre on Afghanistan. But it can be any other period provided it is after Mazar-E-Sarif and before 20-11.

       The third verse talks about the arsonist. We have three possibilities for the identity of the arsonist: Saddam Hussein, because of the oil wells he set afire after the Gulf War (and also now, in the Iraq Campaign), Ossama Bin Laden for the 09/11 attacks and l' onde (see C05Q055). (And the winner is...  [Kidding]) . Our choice is for Ossama Bin Laden because Saddam Hussein is already cited as "the crocodile" (good guys, good buddies, aren't they? the arsonist and the alligator).

        The continuation of the verse says about the hatred, rage and envy and this is a mention to the Bali Attacks (so, the arsonist) which had happened at 14-10-2002 (or 13), which is 606 (see tables above) and also of his tapes.  Bali is a very pleasant and developed place, so that's why Nostradamus talks about envy. But we have missed a stronger period now marked in red: 20-AUG..20-SEP-2001 where we have the 11-SEP-2001 attacks and we clearly associate this verse with the 11-SEP Attacks.

        The fourth verse says that the arsonist has been for a long time hidden on the Orient (Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc). 

        The fifth verse talks about Saddam Hussein and his "bunkers" under the earth.

        The sixth verse talks about the controversy of Ossama bin Laden being dead or alive. In 13-11-2002 he was recognized as being alive and this is 605.

        There still remains the periods "not used" from the table. The ones from 2003 may be referring the defeat of Saddam Hussein and his death by poisoning (under the bunkers?). But there's another possibility. See below.

        The other possibility that may not be overlooked is that the sept at the end of the first verse may not mean 607. We inferred that but there’s a strong possibility that it is a reference to the seven sons of Ossama bin laden that will be arrested and transferred to Guantanamo during or after Saddam Hussein's defeat from power in Iraq. For the transference of the sons of Ossama Bin laden to Guantanamo see C08Q064, C04Q060, C06Q011, C01Q010, for example. There are many other quatrains about the theme. See the index on the quatrains cited.  So, the possible dates for 2003 on the tables may be indicating the periods of the transference of Ossama Bin Laden's sons to Guantanamo.

          See the Portuguese Version  or the historical follow up and a more detailed interpretation.

Numerical Relationships

        XI,19 => 11,19 => 1+1+1+9 = 12. Saddam Hussein wa captured on 12-DEC-2003

        The period of his capture  is indicated by the period 20-NOV..20-DEC-2003 (see the first table)

     
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References
     
C08Q064, C04Q060, C06Q011, C01Q010,C03Q048,C05Q055.
     
Notes
     
14-DEC-2003. Saddan Hussein is captured on 12-DEC-2003 and his capture is announced on 13-DEC-2003.
     
     
26-APR-2003.
     
    a) Documents Link Iraq Regime With Al Qaida
     
21-APR-2003.
     
    a) Iraqis search Saddam in tunnels. This corresponds  to the period 605 (20-04-2003/20-05-2003), see table above.
     
03-ABR-2003. See the Portuguese Version  for updates.
     
01-APR-2003. See the Portuguese Version  for updates.
     
25-MAR-2003. Revision.
     
06-MAR-2003. Compact interpretation.
     

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